Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:36 am

--Fitting the new rubber seal to the glass looks like it would be easy, but was unbelievably challenging. I let the new seal take a set, before attempting to reinstall the chrome trim pieces.

--When the new vinyl covering is complete on the top, the window will be reinstalled using the rope-trick. The chrome trim strips will already be inserted into the seal.

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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:39 am

--Quick stop at the upholstery shop yesterday to check on new vinyl progress. We found a match in marine-grade vinyl that is a near perfect match to the factory original stuff. The new pleated headliner is also ready for installation and looks fantastic. Rear glass should be re-installed today.

--A little off topic, but here is one of the replica-Ricaro seats (re-upholstered by the same upholstery shop several years ago), and ready to go in behind the hardtop on this project. More on the project as it develops.

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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by ST3Racer » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:51 pm

Jim,
Wow, fabulous work. You and I have spoken before about how I don't want one of these tops to 'complete' my Stradale replica build. Finding one, and most likely having to do what you are doing to the top, is work I don't really NEED to do or to have. Besides, I live in Colorado, where driving in the sun and the open air is what I like to do most. Sunny, dry, mountain roads, with less than 20% humidity in the Summer.....

I have a Jeep TJ, that has a Hardtop, and I had to build a hoist in my shop to install and remove the crazy thing - and to STORE it when it's off. What would I do with a second top?

By the way, great result in your last race. I remember when I lived and raced in CENDIV out of Cincinnati, and the MARRS folks would come to either Nelson's Ledges, or Mid-Ohio, and clean up on the podiums. Tough, gritty racers. Good one for you!
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:26 pm

--Bill, I hear ya on the hardtop! If I didn't already have one, I might take a pass on it myself.

--Even with the Pininfarina hardtop Bill, my project is not as faithful a replica as the work you did!! Your CSA project definitely was the inspiration for me to do this at all! Many, many thanks for all the pointers you gave me to get this far with it!
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:41 pm

--I stopped by the upholstery shop today just in time for the rear window re-installation.... ugh!! Another tough job!

--We tried reinstalling the window with the new seal (and the chrome trim) already attached to the glass. Try as we did, there was just not enough flex in the new seal to seat the inside lip of the rubber seal, even using the rope trick. Ultimately, we had to remove the chrome strips in order to achieve enough flex to seat the window with the new rubber seal into the top.
--Tomorrow, we plan to leave the car in the sun a bit before we try re-inserting the chrome.

--All in all, I am extremely happy with the quality of the vinyl, and the new headliner! (failed to get a pic of the headliner - sorry!)

--This of course is not the "project car" but just a transporter for the top!
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by SimcaBertone66 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:12 pm

That looks great ….! an understatement … lol
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:41 pm

--When you receive a compliment from the likes of Bill McMahan and Joe DeGasperis, you know you are doing something right! These are two of the best fabricators in the business!

--After a couple of false starts, we finally got the rear window with new seal installed. Initially, we were unable to get the window to seat with the chrome trim already in place, so we installed the window without the chrome trim. Unfortunately, we were then unable to get the chrome trim inserted into the seal (not surprisingly).

--So the window came back out to insert the chrome trim into the seal first; and, by this time the new seal had taken a little bit of a set, so were successful in getting the window reinserted into the top (again, using the rope trick). The last pic is a peak at the new headliner.
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by harpdevice » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:06 am

Hello,
Thanks for all the details about restoring the hardtop.
I’ve been searching forums for an example.
It looks great!!
In an earlier post you mentioned having extra drip guard trims. I am getting a hardtop tomorrow that needs one.
Is it possible to buy one? Or both if needed?
Also, it needs a new headliner. Your pleated headliner looks nice too!

Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by atruscott » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:09 am

Here's another nugget for the restoration. The CSA hardtops had a leather(ette) piece that went around the inside edging, I think it was made from four separate pieces, sewn in the corner seam with a french seam, and then tucked in around the tight fitting edge piece. I've only seen it intact on one roof, didn't get a photo, and an citing from memory. I've seen a few tatty ones that were decaying somewhat, enough that I don't think it was a one off customization.
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Post by fp55scca » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:02 am

harpdevice wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:06 am
--In an earlier post you mentioned having extra drip guard trims. I am getting a hardtop tomorrow that needs one.
Is it possible to buy one? Or both if needed?
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--Kevin, please see Andy Truscott's post in this thread on 30 July. Andy indicates that he will have a surplus set of drip rails available!
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