124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

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124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by cgranju » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:09 pm

The pedal box is different for a 124 sedan than a 124 Sport, right?

Anyway, I guess the title says it all. I guess this is as likely a group of people is any actually have these send me obscure parts laying around. Not in a big hurry for either but I thought I’d go ahead and put a feeler out.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by friedman » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:56 am

Don't assume the pedal boxes are different, I converted my sedan to five speed and don't recall getting a sedan specific pedal box. Alternatively, you probably could use the pedals and bushings from a spider pedal box and install them in your sedan box.
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by davedecker4 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:36 pm

Yeah, are you trying to go from AT to manual in a sedan? I think you can use the sedan AT pedal box and add correct pedals and adjust spacers. Do you have the box at all? I think I have an AT pedal box from prior project. I may be able to dig out a pedal too, let me know what you need. I have couple driveshafts too, but shipping may be costly. Perhaps you only need one of the sections? Can you measure what length you need? Then I can check what I have that matches.
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Post by cgranju » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:15 pm

Yes, this would be for an auto ->manual conversion, so I do have a sedan box & I definitely have plenty of pedals. I haven't had a chance to really look, but I'll check what I have to work with & based on the comments here I'm betting I'll be okay. The driveshaft difference between spiders & sedans/coupes is in the front section, so at least it's the shorter piece. I seriously doubt I'll be able to find a Coupe driveshaft locally (unless it's one of my own), but I suppose I could pick one up on a road trip.

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Post by friedman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:40 am

I think coupe and sedan driveshafts are the same, differing only if auto or manual. I know when I went to five speed from auto in my sedan I had to get a coupe front section. Start looking for that as soon as you can!
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by cjwaters » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:05 pm

If the pedal box mash up doesn't pan out, let me know. I probably have one from the '72 wagon I parted. I'll add it to the list if stuff I need to look into for Carl when I get back to NC. ;)
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by atruscott » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:03 am

Ears prick up..... I’m about to begin the GM auto -> 131 manual conversion of my ‘74 wagon.

I’d been laboring under the impression that:

A) the 131 transmission should fit fine on the front of the auto driveshaft, with some subtle tunnel modifications needed, and

B) a spider 3 pedal box would fit without modifications

Please disabuse me now, or confirm my presumptions! (Sorry chris - but I know you want the answers too ;))
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by cgranju » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:55 am

It could be folklore, but I thought the auto front section made a perfect fit for the 131 for 124 spiders, so it would follow that the front auto section from a sedan/wagon would be the same ?

I believe I have the means to fully compare pedal boxes, but if definitely would like to hear if you have!
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Re: 124 sedan pedal box (3 pedals), 124 Coupe driveshaft

Post by davedecker4 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:54 pm

That may be right. Check your measurements prior.
It seems like sedan and spyder pedalbox is different but I don't recall for certain. You may be able to use the manual pedals in sedan AT pedalbox. Should be easy to check with them side by side.

Also 131 trans takes up more room so check your starter before the install.

Sounds like a fun project, enjoy!
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