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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:13 am
by fp55scca
atruscott wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:09 am
--The CSA hardtops had a leather(ette) piece that went around the inside edging, I think it was made from four separate pieces, sewn in the corner seam with a french seam, and then tucked in around the tight fitting edge piece.
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--Andy, very good point! I had the same question. I noted that there seems to be a horseshoe-looking piece (as you describe) in the exploaded view of the hardtop.

--Additionally, my upholstery guy commented that he thought something was missing after he installed the headliner. I honestly don't think it looks too bad without the extra trim piece, but unless I can get some more detail, a readily available pinch-weld moulding may do the trick. I'll consult with Guildo Torchia, who owns one of maybe two real CSA's here in the States, and see if I can get some more detail.
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Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:41 am
by atruscott
I actually meant around the top.... the ring (that’s not shown on the exploded diagram) as well as the horseshoe

Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:26 pm
by fp55scca
atruscott wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:41 am
I actually meant around the top.... the ring (that’s not shown on the exploded diagram) as well as the horseshoe
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--Ok Andy, I think I see what you mean. The "horseshoe" pictured in the exploded view would actually not be seen when the upper shell (top) is in place.

--I'll try to get a better pic of my headlioner in place. I actually think it looks pretty good without the finishing ring around the interior!

Re: Refurbishing a Pininfarina Hartop Fiat 124 Spider

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:00 am
by fp55scca
--THE REST OF THE STORY!

--Final installation did not hold overnight, and the rubber seal separated about 3/4" in the corners. This caused the chrome strip ends to start to pull out of the seal as well; and made installation of the corner trim pieces impossible to install. Two reasons for this:
(1) The replacement seal was not remanufactured like the original. It was smaller in circumference than the original, causing it to be extremely tight when installed on the rear glass.
(2) The corners of the molded rubber seal were not molded as a single piece, as original, but rather cut at an angle, and glued (?) (rubber bonded) together.

--Had to remove the rear window (4th time). This time we glued the rubber seal to the rear glass (about 6" in each corner) using a windshield installation product made by Dow. (see pic). We also glued about 6" of the chrome strips to the seal in the corners. We clamped the whole thing and allowed it to sit overnight.

--The studs that hold the rear trim corner pieces were too short to penetrate all the way through the new seal and top, and had to be refabricated. I did this using an SS machine screw and small fender washer, and cut and welded them together to replicate the studs. The new studs were then glued into the corner pieces using epoxy.

--Final installation was successful, and has remained so for about 1 week. I am pleased with the outcome; but.... this was one of the most labor intensive projects I have ever undertaken with a Fiat Spider!
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